Finding one’s way from insanity
George Salzman   <>
initial posting 10 October 2011 - last update 10 October 2011


  This posting may well never be finished, Mon 10 Oct

      I have two friends who, while they may be sane, have damn near driven me over the edge. These “friends”, who I invite you write directly in order to get a variety of perspectives on what’s wrong with the world, are
            Gordon Arnaut <>
            David Baillie <>
To Gordon I now feel very close, although for a time he would have nothing to do with me, but that has passed, I think permanently. He is an engineer who lives on a farm in Ontario, Canada, with a large number of animals that he cares for with exceptional concern — I would say that Gordon loves his animals. As an engineer in his professional outlook, he does not feel comfortable with ambiguities: he wants things to be well defined and clearcut. Thus when he mistook my criticism of some of his viewpoints as personal criticism, his immediate response was to cut off his relationship with me, a relationship that rested entirely on internet contacts. We have talked at length using Skype on a couple of occasions, and of course corresponded with e-mail, but that is the extent of our contacts. Except for the short period of rupture, we have been in a very cordial, mutually respectful relationship.

      David Baillie is an entirely different “can of worms”, someone with whom my relationship has been consistently precarious. For a period of a couple of months, I tried to maintain a friendly working relationship among the three of us, but the intensity of anger that David kept expressing, and Gordon’s persistence in countering David’s avowal of National Socialism (called Nazism by most Liberals who refuse to even consider Hitler’s viewpoint) destroyed my effort to keep the dialogue going. It’s easy enough for anyone who considers her/himself a liberal to dismiss David as an incorrigible Nazi because David’s position on every issue is identical with that of Der Führer, with the sole exception being that Hitler wanted Jews to be either exterminated or forcefully moved to an isolated geographical location where they would be kept separate from all other ethnic groups, and David advocates locking all Jews in what is currently the State of Israel and not permitting any non-Jew to enter.

      Without a doubt David is one of the most hateful people I’ve ever encountered and tried to deal with. He oscillates readily between being close to civil at one moment and utterly despicable the next. Because of my preference to believe in the basic decency of people, I welcome his moments of apparent cordiality, in fact to such an extent that only a day or so ago I urged him to visit Oaxaca with his son so that he could see with his own eyes the possibility of a society with people of all skin shades and colors living together without the virulent racism that he reeks with. But as soon as I write something with any cordiality expressed his retort is to come back nastier than ever, and my reaction is of course, “Well, fuck him! I don’t want to see him”. So what happens is that he manages to jerk me around, caught between my desire to have friendly associations and my repulsion at someone who knows only how to kick me in the face when I act decently. At the moment I’m really pissed off at David, so much so that I’m going to put in this note the little I know of him and the two people to whom he claims to be closest — his son and his wife. If some Zionist shithead looks him up and kicks his ass, he’s had it coming.

As an ethnic Jewish-American much of whose early life was in the New York City area in Queens County, Brooklyn, and Nassau County, I grew up with a great many Jewish friends. After several years in the U.S. Army during World War II, I returned to Brooklyn College, was married, and completed my undergraduate degree requirements at the same time as my wife, Freda Friedman Salzman. We went to the Univ of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana in August 1949 to pursue our graduate studies, both of us in physics. As a matter of course, we both assumed that Jewish people were intellectually very gifted, though I don’t think we were consciously trying to compare people of different ethnic heritages at that time. The entire concern with “being Jewish” didn't happen until relatively recently when Freda was long since dead and I was becoming increasingly aware of the barbaric behavior of the Zionists and their supporters.

      My morality is quite simple: each tiny child, from earliest infancy, is a treasure of our species. In order to develop a world in which human life is revered, we should bathe each newborn with love and respect as a whole, though as yet immature, human being. A child growing up in such a social environment will, as I see here in Oaxaca State, develop into a caring and loving person, someone to whom acts of mutual assistance are taken for granted as part of nature. You may at once challenge me, “If that is my sincere belief, then why did I choose such a vile title for this little essay?” The answer is straightforward: I wanted to challenge the comfort that many Jewish people can experience from the “polite” language used in most of the “respectable”on-line discussion of the genocide the Israeli Zionists are perpetrating against the Palestinians. There are things so terrible that their awefulness should not be hidden. There are times when sticking to “polite” language serves to obfuscate the important issues.

      The attempted genocide of the Palestinians is, as I see it, so terrible that it must be stopped. The full horror is not — cannot be — conveyed in polite, measured tones. That’s why I resorted to very offensive language. I wanted people to be jerked out of their relative complacency. Was it crude of me to do that! God damn right it was! It was like spitting in the face of people whose complacency about what unspeakable horrors “their” government is perpetrating is apparently unshakeable until their own pocketbook is squeezed.

A bit of perspective
      People of any so-called “ethnicity” are all fundamentally the same, regardless of all the minor variations and tribal affiliations. Thus religious beliefs and all ceremonial practices are without significance in differentiatng between two groups insofar as their fundamental human characteristics are concerned. In practical terms the differences may be profound in so far as the way different societies function, but the basic human requirements are invariable — nourishment, association with other humans, without which normal conduct is not possible, periods of sleep and rest, and so on. Some further remarks on my perspective follow the section with the numbered e-mails from correspondents

      So-called Jewish people are, in their inherent makeup, no different than anyone else — not better or worse, not more or less greedy for material wealth, and so on. In a word, indistinguishable. My “friend” David Baillie in Boston doesn’t accept a word of this. He has been lured by the propaganda spewed by Israel Shamir, a rootless self-server originally from Vladivostock who advocates a supposedly “humane” Jewish nation in the land of Palestine. In my naiveté I thought, for several years, that Israel Shamir was a friend and kindred spirit. However, it turned out that I was wrong on both counts. Shamir and his internet technician Kenneth Freeland, who Shamir keeps on a very short leash, are involved in an operation that is clearly condoned and supported by the Israeli Zionist state, despite their supposed sympathetic regard for the Palestinians. In my opinion Shamir knows exactly what game he is playing, but Freeland is in the dark, as his extended correspndence with Gordon Arnaut showed. [1]

      Here are 1. my original note and 9. David Baillie’s response, the “ninth” one I received.

1. Date: Monday 03 September 2011 - Not posted until Tuesday 04 October 2011
From: George Salzman <>
Subject: The Jewfestation of much of the English-language literate World


      My efforts to communicate seem to have been badly thwarted. For years I have maintained my website at the Boston campus of the University of Massachusetts. With the fetishization of security, which I am opposed to, I have become more and more marginalized by the operation of the U of Mass/Boston computation facility. My belief is that in the long run we must build a global culture of trust, sharing, and love, and that our efforts should be directed towards that end. With these beliefs it has become increasingly difficult to function in the prevalent atmosphere, in which distrust and deceitfulness have become largely the norm. My most immediate contact is with many friends — sadly also many former friends who have cut off contact with me — who are locked into what I see as the tribal values of many, perhaps most, Americans of Jewish ethnicity. On many important issues I am more in agreement with some of the beliefs of a friend, David Baillie, of Boston, who also holds, to my dismay, many American Nazi beliefs. We have been in communication now for the better part of a year, but have not managed to come to a common understanding of the basic reason why American society is collapsing. We both believe that Jewish Americans are playing a terribly destructive role, misguided by their supposed tribal loyalties. David wants them all to be deported. My view is that the would-be Zionist colonizers of Palestine should be relocated and Palestine returned to its indigenous peoples. It could be achieved without anyone being punished and all the people involved being helped to secure a satisfying life. I have written about this on my website. If you wish to read these ideas, you can find them on my website, or write me for additional information. Very sincerely —George

George Salzman <>

9. Date: Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:52 PM
From: David Baillie <>

      Tell you what George. Given the treatment I’ve been given by your friends and even you at times I’m going to make you work for it, if you are really that interested. My friend states who he is and his organization right at the beginning of the broadcast. I have given you something worth listening to, which I didn’t have to do, what you do with it is up to you. What YOU don’t understand is that, in the long run, Zionists are not the biggest problem, they are focused and operate in the most blatant way, once Christian Zionists understand that Jews are the Antagonists of God and not the Chosen, their fortunes will change dramatically. Christians have got to be reminded of the truth of their belief. That is a matter of cutting down the blinds of propaganda.

      What the real danger is is the threat you and your friends pose to civilization as we know it. I, and my kind, understand that imperialism is self-destructive because to invade and take over other peoples of different races leads ultimately to the infiltration of those other races amongst our kind. I started out as a Liberal-minded person, so anti-imperialism IS a core part of my belief system. As I began to understand the consequences of imperialism internally, I became a far more conservative-minded person and it made me rethink some history. It has destroyed every Aryan nation of the past that was seduced into becoming an empire by your kind. Egypt, Rome, Great Britain under Cromwell, which led to the endless intrigues that racked our European folk throughout the past 4 or 5 centuries, culminating in WW2, when Hitler finally tried to expel the Jews once and for all from Central Europe, and was brought down by the Allied Zionist powers of the UK, USA and USSR (interestingly, all “united” nations). When I ask if you are a race or a religion you can never answer me straight out because there is no answer, you are neither, your people are of no fixed race and have a faith based on existing for the pleasures of this life, there is no higher aim except the exaltation of your own “bohemian”, pleasure seeking lifestyle. Look at Hollywood and Vegas, that is the pinnacle of Jewish culture. Both were created and formed by Jews. I believe that you too are as sincere as my friend, but that doesn’t make you right. Would you have millions of White Americans move to Oaxaca and destroy the balance of nature there for the people who have struck a harmonious note with their environs and lives? I think not. Then why should I accept being swamped by every type of alien from all over the world that can be scraped up? This country has just imported a huge number of Africans here. Right in my own city, the impact has been profound in the past three months. I seldom saw a black in our Market Basket, now it is literally swamped with them, and Indians too. That is on top of the Vietnamese and Cambodians that were brought in a decade ago. The only time I see more Whites is in the morning when I take my son in for some fresh baked bread before school. Retirees and veterans. It is the nicest time to go and we are all HAPPY to see each other there.

      YOUR kind has done this. YOUR kind promotes this Liberal idiocy. There is no end to the demands your kind makes, the blood your kind extracts. Open an American magazine like Vanity Fair sometime, George. Jews writing about Jews, or the celebrities that owe their status to Jews. That is American culture these days. In the past thousand years, Jews have been thrown out of European nations over 100 times, for good cause. These people were far more intelligent and less tolerant of the Jewish Pied Pipers. After some many wars caused by the Jews that killed tens of millions of Europe’s finest men, the Jews finally got the Europeans pliant enough to succumb to their wiles and the “democracy” of the US made it perfect fodder for any idea pushed with enough propaganda to take hold and an empire with enough might and distance to help turn any war in favor of its benefactor, the Jew.

      That is the real history and situation we face. Yes, Great Britain was an imperialist bastard nation, under Jewish mercantile authority, it handed off to the US with its greater resources and polyglot society. There is no question that Whites did things they shouldn’t have done. But who was really pulling the string, George? And whose philosophy of multiculturalism has made it possible for a NATION of people to become empires of multiple ethnicities willing to wage war for spoils and silly notions of freeing other peoples by murdering them in endless wars? If I am going to kill someone for any belief, it is to protect my own family, my own folk, my own nation. I would not kill others to steal what is theirs or to rule over them. That is what your kind would do, and claim it was for their enemy’s own good, like what they did to the Russians, Ukrainians and Germans in the last century.

      The Zionists enable your kind to rise up within our cultures. You are one of the very few that has decided to not cover for your brethren’s misdeeds, not entirely. Apparently, you actually do believe the lion’s share of what they tell you about Hitler, so you feel somewhat justified in seeing the Whites here suffer as retribution for our supposed sins, but are still not willing to even accept that I merely want your folks REMOVED from our midst so you can no longer harm us. THAT is a really big problem I have with you. I want some sort of equity at least acknowledged from you and your kind. If I can’t get you, the most honest Jew I know personally, how do you think the rest of your kind will respond? And in responding as we KNOW they would, do they not deserve what just may befall them IF my people wake up before being smothered out of existence?

            David Baillie
            62 Pawtucket Drive
            Lowell, MA 01854

Another Holocaust is coming — this one to America!

      What is not easy for me to understand is the utter stupidity of American Jewish people. How can they not see the rage being stirred in the American non-Jewish population by the “successful” manipulation of the American political machinery in the obvious effort to back the Jewish conquest of Palestine? American Jews who deliberately close their eyes to this development, deluding themselves that they can go on endlessly enjoying their privileged status in a decaying social order, are not fundamentally different than, for example, the well-to-do Armenians in Turkey in 1915. Robert Fisk, in The Great War for Civilization: The conquest of the Middle East paints a horrifying picture of the genocide of perhaps one and a half million Armenian Turks. It’s in Chapter 10, titled “The First Holocaust”. This ought to be required reading for American Jews.

      My effort to understand the thinking of “ordinary”, i.e. non-Jewish Americans brought me into contact with some characters who I’m sure would be shunned by most American Jews. The reason is simple. These characters, of whom Bostonian David Baillie is one, are condemnatory of the manipulation of the American government engineered by so-called “Jewish interests”. David has one virtue which many correspondents lack: he says what he actually believes, in his case much of it is, to my mind, “Nazi” propaganda. Thus, he and I disagree vehemently about many “facts of history”, and each of us believes the other is quite deluded about what is true and false, but we know that the other party says what he believes at that time to be the truth. Of course it’s pretty frustrating trying to discuss things with David, because he’s as stubborn in holding to his beliefs as I am to mine. Nevertheless, there is a great deal in his belief system that I am convinced is basically correct. So we have our areas of ardent disagreement, and areas of strong agreement.

      I think that what holds this exchange together is the fact that each of us knows that the other person is saying what he really believes. If we all behaved by always trying to tell the truth it would of course cause discomfort to people who learned that they were thought badly of by people whose respect they wished they had. But if we did so, and if we really did want to be thought well of, then we might be motivated to behave in ways that merited respect.

  This posting is still in progress, Mon evening 10 Oct

[1] Israel Shamir and Kenneth Freeland revealed. The original two articles, Getting at the truth in today’s world — Part I and Part II, are, respectively, at and See in particular, in the second item, where Freeland has relied on a scurrilous piece of trash by a raving Swiss idiot, one Hennecke Kardel, whose book, Adolph Hitler — Founder of Israel: Israel in war with Jews is cited by XXXXXX Coffinman.

[2] Sketch for a humane resolution of the Palestine/Israel conflict.

George Salzman is a former American Jew living in Oaxaca, Mexico, an ex-physics prof, Univ of Massachusetts-Boston.
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